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unlawfulbarorder [2018/03/31 23:50] – Correct citation of police officer, using correct tense, use "stated" instead of "said", and add ".." Managerunlawfulbarorder [2020/04/29 05:52] (current) – add robots meta Manager
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-On July 18, 2017, Robert Spinks, University Chief of Police, **unlawfully** issued a //Bar Order// to me on the premise of pre-crime. I, having never gotten angry, never attacked anyone, never threatened anyone, never had bad conduct, have had consistent exceptional [[annualperformancereview|exceptional annual performance reviews]], have had great working relationship with all employees, staff, and even students (with exception to Patrick Eustis, who had issues with me but not the other way around), have no history of aggression, and never have been arrested for any crime, am somehow considered (according to Robert Spinks) have a potential for committing some sort of crime.+On July 18, 2017, I believe Robert Spinks, University Chief of Police, **unlawfully** issued a //Bar Order// to me, Kevin Day, on the false premise of pre-crime. I, having never gotten angry, never attacked anyone, never threatened anyone, never had bad conduct, have had consistent exceptional [[annualperformancereview|exceptional annual performance reviews]], have had great working relationship with all employees, staff, and even students (with exception to Patrick Eustis, who had issues with me but not the other way around), have no history of aggression, and never have been arrested for any crime, am somehow considered (according to Robert Spinks) have a potential for committing some sort of crime.
  
-The //Unlawful Bar Order// was issued to me at my home after I walked to my apartment next to campus. An officer, whose name is unknown to me, issued me the //Unlawful Bar Order// and when I asked what the reasons for he stated that **&&"..this is not normal.."&&** and he could not provide any reason for its issuance. This confused and scared me. Not only was I confused about my termination, I was now being treated as a criminal. But for what reasons? I had no idea and neither did the officer who delivered the //Unlawful Bar Order//. The //Unlawful Bar Order// is particularly confusing because it is improperly filled out and the fields for explaining the reason for the bar order where left empty.+The //Unlawful Bar Order// was issued to me at my home after I walked to my apartment next to campus, without causing any incidents. An officer, whose name is unknown to me, issued me the //Unlawful Bar Order// and when I asked what the reasons for he stated that **&&"..this is not normal.."&&** and he could not provide any reason for its issuance. This confused and scared me. Not only was I confused about my termination, I was now being treated as a criminal. But for what reasons? I had no idea and neither did the officer who delivered the //Unlawful Bar Order//. The //Unlawful Bar Order// is particularly confusing because it is improperly filled out and the fields for explaining the reason for the bar order where left empty.
  
 Trying to find out why I was being issued a bar order, I contacted Charlene Abbott. She stated that she doesn't have anything to do with bar order issuance and could not help me. I then reviewed the [[barorderpolicy2016|university bar order policy]] and found that the bar order was issued in direct violation of their policies. This meant that the bar order was unlawful. Trying to find out why I was being issued a bar order, I contacted Charlene Abbott. She stated that she doesn't have anything to do with bar order issuance and could not help me. I then reviewed the [[barorderpolicy2016|university bar order policy]] and found that the bar order was issued in direct violation of their policies. This meant that the bar order was unlawful.
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 ===== Break Down of Robert Spink's E-Mail Response ===== ===== Break Down of Robert Spink's E-Mail Response =====
-FileAdd link to my e-mail request+See[[emails#conversationkevin_day_s_bar_order_appeal_-_2017_07_18|E-mail Conversation]].\\ 
-FileAdd link to Robert Spinks e-mail response.+See[[emails#conversationfollow_up_on_items_and_the_bar_order|Related Conversation]].\\
  
-TODO.+<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +MrDay - 
 + 
 +Thank you for bringing your concern to my attention. I have had an opportunity to review the Bar Order and the background behind its issuance. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +My e-mail was submitted to him on *Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:58:13 -0500 (CDT)*. 
 +His response was submitted to me on *Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:47:37 -0500 (CDT)*. 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +A uniformed police officer did serve you with a Bar Order at your residence this afternoon, I'm not sure what you mean by an 'unknown person.' You are correct the order had the box checked for a student by mistake, so that your Banner ID Number was written there. But, that in no way impacts the substance of the Bar Order. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - Robert Spinks clarifies that my unknown person was in fact an officer. And claims that an improperly filed Bar Order still holds. 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +Upon being terminated from your employment today, the University exercised its right to bar you from the university properties and events. The reasons for the bar are outlined in the University Bar Policy which you referenced. It is not necessary to have committed a crime nor be involved in an act of violence or aggression, however you should review your conduct up to the point of your termination. For any more specific information about your termination and the issue(s) that precipitated the issuance of the Bar Order you should contact Human Resources. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - The [[barorderpolicy2016|university bar order policy]] directly states that &&..threaten the safety and security of the campus community..&&
 +  - I have done nothing (and have never received no complaints in regards to) to threaten the safety and security of the campus. 
 +  - When my position was terminated, I **immediately walked** home without incident. 
 +  - I never had any complaints against my conduct, had any conduct issues, or have I been told I did anything wrong. 
 +  - Charlene Abbott, from Human Resources, directly told me (before I even sent the first e-mail) that bar orders are not issued in this way and she didn't know what this was about. 
 +  - Charlene Abbott told me that this has nothing to due with HUman Resources or my terminated and Robert Spinks says the opposite? One of these two **must** be lying. 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +The justification for the Bar Order falls within University Policy and your contact with Human Resources should clear that up for you. We try to be proactive in issues like this in order to provide safety to the university community and I'm sure that you will take this opportunity to use the buffer of the Bar Order to take time to refocus. 
 +</quote> 
 +  - It does not fall into the University Policy, I have done nothing nor have I been told I did anything. 
 +  - "take time to refocus"? Refocus about what? I'm not angry, I have no clue what is going on. 
 +  - As [[recordings#termination_-_2017_07_18_0904|witnessed by Charlene Abbott]], I never once got angry and I had no clue that anything was even wrong until my surprise termination. 
 +  - %%We try to be proactive%%. What? so Pre-crime is now legal? Because I **might** do something (despite having absolutely no history or evidence for that matter)? Since when is a person treated as a criminal without ever having committed any crime nor never having threatened anyone? 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +Should you have legitimate business on campus you will be required to check-in with the University Police Department - your point of contact is Lt. Martin Mapp. Should you fail to check-in with Lt Mapp and have a valid business breason to be on university property or at a university event you will be subject to immediate arrest for trespassing. I'm hoping that this does not occur. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - I am being denied my rights because I informed on the ADA violations, security violations, etc.. committed by Patrick Eustis? 
 +  - This is a **violation** of my civil liberties in accordance to **42 U.S.C. Section 1983**. 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +You should recontact our office in six (6) months to see if the order has been lifted. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - As in, I may be permanently banned from all services including a Piano recital because I may have done something but never have and had no history of any such? 
 +  - I lived next to McNeese State University, my entire life surrounded the place, so my entire life is now being attacked? 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +Since you listed in the title of your email that this was an appeal of your order, after thoughtful and in-depth review of your case I'm denying your appeal. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - Robert Spinks claims that it is an appeal despite that it must be in person according to the [[barorderpolicy2016|university bar order policy]]. 
 +  - How can Robert Spinks assume that the e-mail is an appeal when I, Kevin Day, am directly asking what is going on so that I can make an appeal. 
 +  - Wait...A **thoughtfull and in-depth review** that lasted under an hour? The e-mail response was sent to me within an hour of sending my e-mail. 
 +  - Just before I sent the e-mail, I was directly told by an officer at the university police station that he was unavailable to meet in person (mind you, only after I showed the [[barorderpolicy2016|university bar order policy]] because he didn't understand that I had to deliver my appeal in person as per policy). 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 + You offered no new or specific or mitigating information in your appeal that changes the validity of the Bar Order. I find that the order was issued in compliance with existing university policy. I concur with the termination and the reasons for this employment action could offer an opportunity of risk to the university community which this Bar Order is designed to provide a buffer or cooling off period. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - I don't know what I supposedly did to even defend against. 
 +  - I have no history of any incidents, how do you show evidence of a history other than stating "see I have no history"
 +  - Provide a "buffer or cooling off period"? From What? walking home? Again, my supposed //dangerous// behavior was [[recordings#termination_-_2017_07_18_0904|witnessed by Charlene Abbott]] (and recorded). Yes..talking calm is certainly dangerous. Asking what is going on and why things are happening is just criminal (fyi: the previous two sentences are satire). 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +After a review of information leading up to your termination today, I find that there is a potential for your actions, work conduct and inter-personal interactions while employed generated a concern by persons who reported a feeling that their safety and security as well as that of the larger university community was placed at risk by you either intentionally or not. It is also reasonable to presume that since you were employed in a high security and sensitive job position that a job termination could also be a trigger for a risk to the university community. While I hope that no negative interaction or actions are triggered, it is not unusual for employers to bar terminated employees from work premises. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - What information? 
 +  - Can Robert Spinks not see how I asked what the reasons were? Not saying? Probably because there is no reason. 
 +  - Wait..."feeling for safety?", so I feel harassed by Patrick Eustis and get ignored by senior staff...and that is okay, but suddenly and inexplicably somebody else feels for their safety and then with no apparent reason there is a problem. This is blatant discrimination. 
 +  - I never received any charges or complaints filed against me stating I did anything wrong. 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +It is also reasonable to presume that since you were employed in a high security and sensitive job position that a job termination could also be a trigger for a risk to the university community. While I hope that no negative interaction or actions are triggered, it is not unusual for employers to bar terminated employees from work premises. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - Wait what? High Security? What High Security? Web Programming is **high security**? Since when? 
 +  - If he is referring to having electronic access (that is disabled upon termination) is somehow justification for physically barring me from the University and All activities? 
 +  - So...I can be dangerous at a McNeese hosted piano recital because I had access to a computer system? what? 
 +  - Even if I did something electronically (which I never would and never did) a Bar Order does not do anything whatsoever to stop digital attacks and does not, in any way, apply to the scope of a computer. 
 +  - The Bar Order does not prohibit electronic access. 
 +  - I never had any keys to the server room and the only keys I had were turned in to Charlene Abbott immediately upon termination so I cannot be of any physical threat to any //secured// room. 
 + 
 +<quote Robert Spinks, July 18, 2017> 
 +You may appeal my denial to the University's Incident Management Team. This appeal would be viewed administratively without having the right to an in-person hearing. If you would like to pursue that appeal now or later in the future, please contact by email or mail the Chair-Person of the IMT Candace Townsend, Director of Public Relations & University Events. I would encourage you to provide specific justification in such an appeal so that the IMT understands the breadth and depth of your position. 
 +</quote> 
 + 
 +  - So I cannot defend myself from people who are committing fraud and are lying about me. 
 +  - Candace Townsend is one of the Senior Staff who may be involved in the Whistle blowing retaliation as defined in my Discrimination Complaint. 
 +  - I cannot trust Senior Staff because I have reason to believe they are committing fraud and are retailing against me for effectively blowing the whistle against Patrick Eustis, who, if my memory is correct, works directly under Candace Townsend. 
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